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  what a wonderful site!

  by scruffmcbuff in

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  ive been reading through this forum for a while and thought i should contribute!.

  so im df, i was very involved regular pioneer for several years and i slowly started to wake up.. my exprience of leaving is horendous and contains alot of shocking (but apparently not that rare in the orgs) judicials and various encounters with the elders.. ive been out 10 years now and at 27 loving life!

  running a succesful business and dont all thay materialistic stuff thata frowned apon, like providing my wife and kids with a nice car and house!

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  Welcome to the club of materialists. Very happy to have you here!
  
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  Debating With Evolution Deniers is Just Like This

  by cofty in

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  arguing with those who reject scientific evidence can be like arguing about football; just as angry and passionate, but the goalposts keep moving, and one team doesn't exist.. read more here....

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  @Vidquin Deeply ingrained (Christian) ethics were passed on to children

  Which ethics, the ones that tell women to shut up and obey their husbands, or the ones about the imminent destruction of everyone except the few chosen ones, or the one that treat gays as subhumans. It's more likely that you conveniently are referring to the neighborly love ethics borrowed from eastern religions like Jainism and Buddhism, which predate Christianity by several centuries. Or perhaps you are talking about our current western civilization ethics, which trace their origins to Christianity, but have been vastly improved by secular humanism.
  
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  Jesus (if he exists) has a heart of stone - a saga about the hurt of children in his church.

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  jesus is supposed to care for little children.

  mark 10 is often quoted to illustrate his concern.. mark 10:13-16niv.

  the little children and jesus13 people were bringing little children to jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them.

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  Jesus is as big an asshole as his old man.

  Jesus was just a bit kookie. His Dad was supposedly Joseph, and no one knows much about him, good or bad. These are crimes committed by humans among us who used the power of belief to control, exploit and abuse innocent people. Jesus and his Dad are innocent.

  I know you are writing in jest, but I needed to point out who the real s.o.b. are.
  
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  In love with a JW girl

  by rastapau in

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  need advise.

  i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.

  her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.

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  Your relationship is not exactly one where open communication reigns. You two seem to be quite willing to use each other. You belong together and you two belong to the Watchtower. Ignore everything that has been said before. Doesn't apply to you.
  
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  In love with a JW girl

  by rastapau in

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  need advise.

  i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.

  her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.

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  Rastapau,

  I married a JW 22 years ago. She is a good woman who, before marriage accepted that I would never be a JW. She was reproved. Her large JW family did not attend the wedding. The elders later apologized for the harsh treatment. Life is good now, but it could be better and easier. I still struggle to remove the indoctrination from my two children. Things get better slowly, but I could have used my time better.

  in your case, your girlfriend is caving in to the religion, and that in turn means that you have to cave in too. Not good sir!
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  In love with a JW girl

  by rastapau in

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  need advise.

  i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.

  her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.

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  You ain't seen nothing yet. RUN, run, run as fast as you can. She is and will always be more loyal to her religious leaders than she will ever be to you. Even if those religious leaders lied, manipulated, exploited, abused the members and protected pedophiles more than children....wait...they have done all that already. Anyways, the loyalty to you will always be second to her loyalty to her religious leaders.

  Find healthy people. There's plenty out there. The only mentally healthy people inside the religion are psychologically coerced to be there..
  
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  Dealing with family

  by G Skero in

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  i'm in my mid 40's and recently started bible study and going to meetings.

  my family is really having a hard time with this.

  my kids that are over 18 are no longer speaking to me and won't have anything to do with me.

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  Run as fast as you can, or you may want to delay the running just a bit by doing some research on the Watchtower..

  I have never been a JW, but I have been married to one for 22 years. For about 18 of those years I thought it was a great religion, but my whole perspective took a 180 after few days of research four years ago. The outer appearance of the religion looks good. That's what impressed me at first, even fooled me for 18 years. Anyone can be fooled when so many wonderful friendly people treat you as if you are special. The problem is not those obedient people who have been programmed to be nice to you in order to emotionally attract you and blind you about the bad part of the Watchtower. Do you research. You may conclude as I have done that it is a cult and a business that exploits, kills, abuses, robs people of their money, time and dreams. Start at JWfacts.com
  
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  Racial Bias in Policing

  by Coded Logic in

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  the us justice department just released findings from their investigation of the baltimore police department.

  as 40% of the force is comprised of black officers some thought they'd be "immune" to racial bias.

  it turns out black cops can be just as racist - if not more racist - against black people than white cops.

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  Thank you coded logic. My apologies. I see clearly what you meant.

  It is however a strange form. It reads more like a description of a specific trespassing case and not as a general form..
  
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  Racial Bias in Policing

  by Coded Logic in

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  the us justice department just released findings from their investigation of the baltimore police department.

  as 40% of the force is comprised of black officers some thought they'd be "immune" to racial bias.

  it turns out black cops can be just as racist - if not more racist - against black people than white cops.

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  Rather, the words “black male” are automatically included in the description of the arrest. The supervisor’s template thus other presumes that individuals arrested for trespassing will be African American.

  Can you explain? What difference does it make if the race has a specific place for it or is part of the general description. The fact that they write black male, implies that there is other possible gender/races.

  Can you post a copy of that form and clarify your point?

  Some food for thought:
  

  Have you noticed that most police reports are written with black ink on white paper? Perhaps the coverage by black ink (usually about 5% of the total page) represents the inferiority of black.
  

  Also, why are police cars painted black and white? Why not all grey, thus indicating the peaceful coexistence of black and white?

  NOTE: there is sarcasm somewhere in this comment
  
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  Racial Bias in Policing

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. current

  the us justice department just released findings from their investigation of the baltimore police department.

  as 40% of the force is comprised of black officers some thought they'd be "immune" to racial bias.

  it turns out black cops can be just as racist - if not more racist - against black people than white cops.

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  Who's voices should win?

  Exactly. Those are the choices for people living in crime ridden areas. Who do you prefer, tough police or tough thugs?

  My vote would go for tough police. Crime goes down, innocent people are safer, and accountability is more likely. Not so with thugs.